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Lover Leap Legends: A New Book from Lens & Pen Press
LOVER’S LEAP LEGENDS: From Sappho of Lesbos to Wah-Wah-Tee of Waco
Leland & Crystal Payton
ISBN: 978-0-9673925-9-2
352 pages 7.5x10 545 color illustrations
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Available now for $17.50 post paid on www.dammingtheosage.com/buy-the-book/
Lovers leap worldwide. In America the leaping was usually done by a love-shattered Indian woman. There are hundreds of dramatic cliffs where a “dusky maiden” is said to have plunged to her death after her father, the chief, demanded she wed an unloved brave. Thousands of poems, stories, and newspaper accounts chronicle these dolorous events. Millions of postcards and souvenirs have been manufactured picturing the often-spectacular bluffs where those princesses leaped. Folklorists have largely ignored these legends. Understandably so-they are “fakelore” and do not resemble Indian traditions. Mark Twain found Lover’s Leaps perversely amusing, and so do the Paytons.
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Відео

SEE THE OZARKS: The Touristic Image
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What lured Victorian travelers to the Ozarks? Is the appeal of this fabled region the same today as it was in horse and buggy days? Leland and Crystal Payton, authors of 10 published books on popular culture, antiques, and the Ozarks, have searched for the essential image of this great touristic magnet in yesterday's promotions, postcards, photographs, maps, and souvenirs. Most of the rare ephe...
Mystery of the Irish Wilderness
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www.beautifulozarks.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=20&Itemid=51 Here is a fresh inquiry into the fate of pioneer priest John Hogan's colony of immigrant Irish that mysteriously vanished during the Civil War. In the year or two before the war unloosed renegades and military irregulars over the hills of the Ozarks, a foresighted young Irish priest guided the settlement of young ...
The Beautiful and Enduring OZARKS
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www.beautifulozarks.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=18&Itemid=50 What do you get when you give a hillbilly a Hasselblad, a pickup truck, and a big gray dog and turn them loose in the wild Ozarks? In Leland Payton's case, you ultimately get a beautifully photographed and expressively written book about his homeland: The Beautiful and Enduring OZARKS. One hundred-thirty-nine phot...
DAMMING THE OSAGE: The Conflicted Story of Lake of the Ozarks and Truman Reservoir
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www.dammingtheosage.com/ Wars have been fought over water since ancient times. DAMMING THE OSAGE chronicles efforts to develop the Osage River and the forces, both natural and political, that opposed its improvement. Before the Louisiana Purchase, the French and Spanish were thwarted in their effort to colonize the region by the powerful Osage Indian tribe. When the Americans arrived, efforts t...
CAPLINGER MILLS ON THE SAC RIVER
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The first utilization of the Osage River system to produce hydropower was at Caplinger Mills on the Sac River. While the mill is gone, the shell of the small power plant remains, as does the dam and the 1895 iron bridge. A couple of stores supply necessary items for fishermen, hunters, canoers, campers and other recreationalists. The site is listed on the National Register of Historic Places an...
GLOBALIZATION OF THE AMERICAN PADDLEFISH
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Truman Dam blocked the paddlefish from its only known reliable spawning ground in America. Since then, the Missouri Department of Conservation has successfully artificially propagated this valuable sport and food fish. Paddlefish eggs are a valuable substitute for sturgeon caviar so Russian and eastern European aquaculturists have also mastered artificial paddlefish breeding. Since the late 198...
OSCEOLA'S LAMENT: "We have no lake - only a river half full."
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When a lawsuit was filed in 1972 by the Environmental Defense Fund to stop construction of Truman Dam by the US Army Corps of Engineers, business communities along the Osage River erupted with vitriol. The "eastern environmentalists," civic leaders proclaimed, were trying to stop a magnificent lake that would turn their towns into tourist meccas. It should have been evident to these boosters th...
DEATH OF THE SCHELL CITY BRIDGE: 1891 (?), 1890 (?) - 2012
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Sadly each year there are fewer and fewer of these wonderful iron truss bridges. The usual cause of their demise is obsolescence and lack of maintenance. They are replaced by architecturally uninteresting steel and concrete girder bridges. This 317 foot iron bridge spanned the Osage River, connecting Schell City and Rockville, became structurally deficient when maintenance stopped. The video st...
WELCOME TO OSCEOLA: A step forward into yesteryear
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Osceola, Missouri was burned to the ground in 1861 by Kansas Jayhawkers led by General Jim Lane. The inhabitants of this village on the Osage River are still mad, even though pro-Confederate raiders led by William Quantrill retaliated by burning Lawrence, Kansas to the ground and killing 200 men and boys. Jim Lane escaped their vengeance by hiding in a cornfield. In 2012, Osceola Mayor Larry Hu...
TRUMAN DAM: A Gigantic and Costly Public Works Project
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The controversial Army Corps of Engineers dam just above Warsaw Missouri closed its gates on the Osage River in 1979. Whatever the totality of its effects, it is indeed a monstrously large impediment to the flow of the Osage River. This video demonstrates the banality of its architecture with a recitation of project statistics taken from a Corps trifold brochure. A large part of the new book, D...
Dog chases shadow
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While doing some field research in the Ozarks, we found a dog that didn't understand the concept of shadows and had some fun with him. (Good dog) See www.beautifulozarks.com to learn more about our books about the Ozarks.
Mystery of the Irish Wilderness book trailer
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Visit www.beautifulozarks.com to learn more about the Irish Wilderness. Here is a fresh inquiry into the fate of pioneer priest John Hogans colony of immigrant Irish that mysteriously vanished during the Civil War. In the year or two before the war unloosed renegades and military irregulars over the hills of the Ozarks, a foresighted young Irish priest guided the settlement of young Irish famil...

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  • @KieraCameron514
    @KieraCameron514 8 місяців тому

    Does it hurt being that stupid?

  • @mowilderness8505
    @mowilderness8505 9 місяців тому

    I like Osceola.

  • @michaelbandeko3519
    @michaelbandeko3519 Рік тому

    I was friends of Helen and Charlie Robb. They were party to the lawsuit to stop Truman Dam. Charlie's familiy had owned a Fish Camp on the Osage River for many years and Charlie run a commerciail catfish business. The walls of his house were plastered in photo's of giant catfish that had been caught thru the years. Sad that all that history was lost.

  • @jeffking4176
    @jeffking4176 Рік тому

    Interesting . I’ve heard some of this story before. But not in depth. I was born/raised in St.L. so spent all summers at Lk. Ozark, and also all over the Ozarks. I don’t remember how old I was but my cousin [ 10 years my senior] , had a petition to stop the damming of the Meramec River . I had him give me one. I got more signatures on it than ANYONE. Must have worked, they did not build it. My favorite river - Niangua. I canoed down it a number of times at summer camp. That whole area is just so beautiful, naturally. 📻🙂

  • @debbie4503
    @debbie4503 Рік тому

    Thank you so much. My Dad grew up in the Ozarks. Now I send him these videos and he loves it. He is in a nursing home back in Missouri and will soon be 90 years young. Please keep posting these! ♥️

  • @user-er6lz9nq4z
    @user-er6lz9nq4z Рік тому

    Hairy Ass true man dam ….

  • @phildeveney1247
    @phildeveney1247 Рік тому

    My grandma lived in the Ozark valley. My Grandpa was from the West Coast and came out to Missouri to build Bagnell Dam. My Grandma brought him sandwiches every day to woo him while he built the monstrosity that would destroy her home. I used to water ski on the Lake at my aunts place when I was a kid. Wild world.

  • @willie714
    @willie714 2 роки тому

    I know I know - white man and capitalism bad

  • @greaser3069
    @greaser3069 2 роки тому

    oh boo hoo. such a shame you cant take pictures anymore...

  • @robertvaughan4915
    @robertvaughan4915 2 роки тому

    The sacking and killings in Oceola in 1861 was certainly bad I think you got payback directly or indirectly through Quntrail's attack or should I say muderous campaign of Lawrence, KS. I found a member of my family who is burid in Oceola(Dr. William Vaughan) in 1864. Not sure if he was there for the sacking though.

  • @eagleman1542
    @eagleman1542 2 роки тому

    My great-great grandparents were married/lived in Osceola just before the Civil War; luckily they survived the atrocities of the Jayhawkers.

  • @mo-rfd
    @mo-rfd 2 роки тому

    After Truman silts up, it could be a powder keg above Lake Of the Ozarks. Time will tell.

  • @donrussjenkins2556
    @donrussjenkins2556 2 роки тому

    This was a Fargin snooze fest

  • @Crazyreseller
    @Crazyreseller 3 роки тому

    If we listened to every enviomenleist there would be no progress made in this world. Unfortunately, we all have to make some sacrifices for our needs. Electricity this damn produces , benefits many thousands if not millions of people. In addition, the creation of this lake has created whole new industries and tourism dollars to this area.

  • @Grassyknolldallas
    @Grassyknolldallas 3 роки тому

    Very grateful that they decided to this a long time ago. The benefit it has had for Missouri economically and recreationally is immense. And it will continue to be a huge part of Missouri culture for decades to come. Who doesn’t like going to the lakes?

  • @carcinogenicoak3057
    @carcinogenicoak3057 3 роки тому

    I’m not sure exactly how the Bagnel Dam changed the Ozarks, but I do know how it is now. Most of the towns that exist in the Lake of the Ozarks area are dependent on tourism. It’s even worse now that the pandemic has basically walled people away and made them less likely to go out, though I can’t really blame them. Personally, I think the greatest tragedy that occurred because of the damming of the Ozarks was the loss of Old Linn Creek. An entire town is in that lake and all of the people who lived there were displaced... There’s a real shame in that, ya know? To suddenly lose your home cause some 20 miles away somebody walled up a river.

    • @sultanofswing7198
      @sultanofswing7198 3 роки тому

      Covid lead to the beat year the lake ever had. No One wants to wear masks or live under the governments thumb so they went to the lake where no one does.

  • @johnpyle8027
    @johnpyle8027 3 роки тому

    My grandparents had a small 113 acre farm in Humansville MO. It was too rocky to grow crops of any big substance but there was enough grass and brush creek for cattle. I remember going there as a child until my grandfather died in 1972. I remember old 7 and 13 highway driving down there and it seemed like days as a child. Now it is divided 4 lanes all the way to Branson. The old farm house is still there, but dilapidated. I love being able to drive from Kansas City to Branson and Table Rock and a few other places down there in 4 hours or better if I drive a little faster, but I do miss the old winding route and dozens of little gas station towns along the way. Progression are all natural and sadly will be the end of us one day. With the political divide now I think that day is not far off.

    • @kennypottenger6778
      @kennypottenger6778 2 роки тому

      Well said John, you seem smart so I hope the last part doesnt come true, there is hope for the future, just a strange transition period for us

    • @splatrick6931
      @splatrick6931 2 роки тому

      I’m 32, have been going there since birth and remember gravel roads for miles, lot has changed lol😂 live at 45th MM just off 7 in Roach. Find the history of the lake fascinating but *extremely* sad

  • @Hocoino
    @Hocoino 3 роки тому

    It's cool to look back from a historical perspective, and being able to see what a great decision it was to build the dam. Shows you can't live in fear. A good reminder.

  • @bobwarren8836
    @bobwarren8836 3 роки тому

    What a joke. Everyone wants to praise the First Nation people and get all warm and fuzzy about how they didn’t “alter” the environment. UNTIL they get a appendicitis. Then they can’t wait to get to the hospital. In an Osage village you just died. Ah, the natural life!!!!

  • @wb5plj
    @wb5plj 3 роки тому

    I am sorry but this is also dishonest journalism. Trying to selectively show only one side of an issue and in so doing only appealing to the feelings of the viewer/reader is dishonest.

  • @karenbartlett1307
    @karenbartlett1307 3 роки тому

    That Fr. Hogan refused to take the "loyalty oath" should tell you about sentiments in Missouri regarding the Union. Also, Missouri wasn't inundated with CSA troops during the War. The only CSA forces in the State were the Missouri Partisan Rangers, who did their best to protect Missouri civilians from the Union army. The Union army, before war was even declared, attacked the arsenal in St. Louis, killing about 100 militia and civilians trying to protect it, and ousted the duly elected governor of the State, installing their own Union-sympathetic governor, unelected by the people. The Union army then occupied the State for the duration of the War, killing around 20,000 Missouri civilians for being Southern sympathizers. All Missourians during the War had their guns illegally taken by the Unionists, unless they agreed to join the Union army or the Home Guards. Therefore, civilians executed by the Unionists were unarmed. And although the Unionists called the Missouri Partisan Rangers "bushwackers", the only bushwackers in the State were men who traveled from neighboring States, such as Illinois, Kansas and Nebraska, to prey on defenseless civilians. See this site for more information about the Missouri Partisan Rangers and Missouri during the War: www.rulen.com/partisan/index2.htm

  • @hdgehog6
    @hdgehog6 3 роки тому

    My great-uncle's farm was flooded by the Truman lake.

  • @hdgehog6
    @hdgehog6 3 роки тому

    The Civic Theatre! I saw Cool Hand Luke there when I was a kid... what a scream!

  • @hdgehog6
    @hdgehog6 3 роки тому

    I haven't been there since 1981.... I didn't know it had so much history.

  • @maddyperez1676
    @maddyperez1676 3 роки тому

    i read somewhere that this is where roanoke ridge from rdr2 is based on.

  • @Jemalacane0
    @Jemalacane0 3 роки тому

    From 7:24 to 7:33, you fleshed out your regressive agenda.

  • @shaybutter3899
    @shaybutter3899 4 роки тому

    Mm my home town ❤

  • @Lumpy-Grits-and-Jowls
    @Lumpy-Grits-and-Jowls 4 роки тому

    Was ok ! But the mid Missouri take down of the dams in the Meremac basin and especially the Big River Irondale area and Union Bourbese rivers were a huge mistake! Today many acres and homes could have been saved by daming the Big River, and Bourbese at their previous locations

    • @crystalpayton589
      @crystalpayton589 4 роки тому

      The problem with the Corps of Engineers multipurpose dam program was that there simply isn't enough storage of water to protect developments from really large ain events. What the flood control projects do is protect floodplains from small floods, thereby encouraging development that is catastrophically damaged by major floods. The Corps of Engineers has had its way with dams on the Mississippi system and yet flood damage continues to mount. These realities were well known by Corps hydrologists but ignored by the political and economic dam-building juggernaut.

  • @michaelhart6318
    @michaelhart6318 4 роки тому

    Leland, Jacob Snell agrees with you!

    • @saulgood6313
      @saulgood6313 2 роки тому

      This comment deserves more recognition

  • @leonardotheuseless4188
    @leonardotheuseless4188 4 роки тому

    Great video!

  • @fungiforge232
    @fungiforge232 4 роки тому

    It's interesting. I've read all the comments and the majority of them are for the dams. I'm all for progress. But so many of the people don't really know what's going on. I would call lake of the Ozarks a success. It's brought electricity and tourism to that area. The 2 worse things it did was stop the sturgeon from migrating up the river and force out the people of a low population area. Truman however is an utter failure. Let's start with the dam it's self. It is supposed to be a hydro electric dam to produce power. Out of the 6 turbines at any given at most they run is 2. This is because the dam was built incorrectly. The turbine shafts where put in at the wrong angle. They can only run for about 2 months because the vibration is so bad it blows out the bearings and it takes months and lots of money to fix. Because of the design of the dam it can't be fixed, so will never produce what was promised. The low water dam that was in Osceola put out more than Truman. So the dam it self is a fail. Like most dam projects all the people got forced out of their homes. But it also forced out several large industries. Canneries cheese plants plus several others. Which had a huge impact. Not to mention the obvious farming. People like to mention that the lake brought recreation and tourism which "created jobs" not really it did the opposite. It covered hundreds of fishing camps all along the river. These had people coming from all over the world. These would be completely filled with people and and all the hotels also. The banks would also be lined with just the day people. The people never came back after the lake came, only one hotel is left and it was empty for decades. Most of the businesses that are designed around recreation and tourism generally only last a year or two. The people just don't come to support it. Most of the towns are dead. Osceola is dieing fast and Clinton is pretty stagnant. The only one kinda growing is Warsaw. But most of the people who go there go on lake of the Ozarks and not Truman. So much for recreation and tourism. The lake it self is filling with sediment because it's a muddy river. It's basically a filter for lake of the Ozarks. The Corp of engineers have also permanently lowered the water level. So with that they now have lots of new land and less lake. With little power being produced and less recreation and tourism than there was, they didn't stand up to their promises and is a huge failure. As for flood control when it floods it stays flooded for months because they can't let the water out as is really needed and that is because bagnal dam is on it's last leg and can't handle the influx of the extra water. It's in bad shape it's cracked and leaking to the point no one should live down stream of it. As far as the book I couldn't say. I heard a bit of misinformation in the video that bothers me and don't how much more is in the book.

    • @crystalpayton589
      @crystalpayton589 4 роки тому

      In the book, we don't contest that Lake of the Ozarks could be considered, as you say, a tourist "success." When it was built, the electricity was not available locally--it was delivered to lead mining in the St. Francois Mountains. Even today, only a little over 2 percent of the electricity used in Missouri comes from hydroelectric dams. What we point out in our book is Lake of the Ozarks was a scheme to enrich a corrupt banker and the corrupt management of Union Electric Company. Both of these personalities would end up doing time for their business practices in federal penitentiaries. As tourism has inherent economic problems, it is not a complete blessing either. Bagnell Dam didn't block the sturgeon, as Lock and Dam No. 1, built many years earlier near the mouth of the Osage, did that job long before Bagnell. (co-author of the book, Damming the Osage)

  • @charlescrowell4981
    @charlescrowell4981 4 роки тому

    Rooster Cogburn !

  • @casualobserver2305
    @casualobserver2305 4 роки тому

    Liberal propaganda at its finest.

    • @crystalpayton589
      @crystalpayton589 4 роки тому

      The granddaddy of all these Corps of Engineers multipurpose dam projects was Franklin Delano Roosevelt. I believe that he is considered a propagandist for the liberal cause. They were justified for their make-work economic value during the Depression and continued afterward because they enriched construction companies and pleased politicians. Both liberals and conservatives have pandered to dam-building schemes, systematically lying about their benefit-cost ratio.

    • @mo-rfd
      @mo-rfd 2 роки тому

      Opposing government seizure of private property by condemnation is liberal propaganda? No, it's the core issue of property rights vs. a corrupt bureaucracy.

  • @discoveryoutdoorskcfishing236
    @discoveryoutdoorskcfishing236 5 років тому

    I appreciate the video and the book but I got to be honest with you. I'm not sure the facts match up. The paddlefish are doing great and although many farms were definitely flooded we also have to consider the fact that we can now control one of the worst rivers in colonial America when it came to flooding and people being killed or property being lost. I guess it's the better of two evils but not a perfect scenario of course. My opinion is that the biggest loss is ancient artifacts.

    • @crystalpayton589
      @crystalpayton589 4 роки тому

      Truman Dam eliminated the known paddlefish spawning in the state of Missouri. All the paddlefish that are snagged are artificially raised and stocked. This is extremely expensive and if there is a severe downturn in the economy it's a program that would likely be dropped. Many scientists worry that artificial spawning will ultimately cause genetic damage. As for flood control, flood damage is increasing yearly in the United States. All the flood control projects do is control minor flooding which encourages floodplain development. Once reservoirs are full of water they add to flood crests. It's a recipe for disaster that has just begun. We share your concern for the archaeological damage caused by reservoirs. No archaeology was done in the Lake of the Ozarks basin. There was extensive research on Truman but it was far from complete.

    • @hadtocheathimtobeathim6549
      @hadtocheathimtobeathim6549 3 роки тому

      @@crystalpayton589 paddlefish still spawn naturally in the Osage.

  • @KKEM641
    @KKEM641 5 років тому

    Just ordered the book and will get is soon. In honesty I think there needs to be a balance, but I will wait until I read the book to make any real comments.

    • @KKEM641
      @KKEM641 4 роки тому

      I have been reading the book, it is fairly good.

  • @xtraflo
    @xtraflo 5 років тому

    the Cleanest method of energy and an attraction that ultimately helped people thrive in the area. The only people who were conflicted were Hillbillies.

    • @crystalpayton589
      @crystalpayton589 4 роки тому

      Hydroelectricity is indeed "clean" but in an area of relatively low relief like Missouri, it's a trivial source of electricity, amounting to only 1.32 percent of all the consumption of electricity in the state. Many studies by the University of Missouri have concluded that these dam projects do not show improvement for the local economy. Jobs are seasonal and low paying. Tourism is an unstable business overall. As for conflicted hillbillies - count my husband in!

    • @mo-rfd
      @mo-rfd 2 роки тому

      Many dams in low relief areas consume a tremendous amount of energy to build vs. what they generate. Hillbillies = self-sufficient people.

    • @gotshmoked1764
      @gotshmoked1764 11 місяців тому

      @@mo-rfduck em we get a bad ass lake lol guess they can move over to kansas

  • @denknugz87
    @denknugz87 5 років тому

    anarchists/socialists/communists/marxists are the laughing stock of humanity

  • @alexanderjames7666
    @alexanderjames7666 5 років тому

    Let's see here Quantrill and his bushwhacker raiders killed 20 times as many people as did Jim Lane in Osceolo…. Saintly men there!

    • @mowilderness8505
      @mowilderness8505 9 місяців тому

      At least Quantrill wasn't hiding in a Cornfield wearing a dress! Embarrassing men there!!

    • @geoffreydavis9019
      @geoffreydavis9019 4 місяці тому

      This is one of many towns James lane led his black brigade in to kill whites.

  • @danielmoorefield5371
    @danielmoorefield5371 5 років тому

    Yet 100% worth it. Favorite fishing lake.

    • @mowilderness8505
      @mowilderness8505 9 місяців тому

      It's my favorite Lake ever! Wish I lived near it again!!

  • @guuglescrewtubefascism4742
    @guuglescrewtubefascism4742 5 років тому

    Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah ! I can't take pictures ! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah ! Forget the billions of wealth created ! Forget the water supply and control ! Forget the tourism and money for the people of Missouri ! Forget ALL of that ! I want my pictures ! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH !!

    • @crystalpayton589
      @crystalpayton589 4 роки тому

      We've written half a dozen other books on various aspects of tourism, which you can see on amazon.com. In fact, we're writing an extensive history of the hype of tourism which we confess we don't find problematic. We know quite a bit about water resource projects and their effect on tourism and it is indeed economically mixed and very unstable. Somehow we've missed running across billions in wealth created by dams and reservoirs. Very few supply municipal water. Their value as flood control has been grotesquely exaggerated. As for taking pictures, we actually are attracted to chaos and ruins as subject matter. From that standpoint, dams are among our favorite subjects.

    • @Jemalacane0
      @Jemalacane0 4 роки тому

      I know, right?

    • @bobwarren8836
      @bobwarren8836 3 роки тому

      Awesomely hilarious. Point. Click. Big deal.

  • @paulbeydler7109
    @paulbeydler7109 5 років тому

    Not sure why you all are giving this subject any of your time! I believe the dams are built, people are using the area for recreation, floods have been controlled(mostly), and you all benefit from renewable power! Good lord you all need to adjust to something, and move ahead! Your forefathers moved on with the changes in their world!

    • @crystalpayton589
      @crystalpayton589 4 роки тому

      Recreation built around artificial reservoirs is a mixed bag. Some projects do have heavy usage but other aquatic deserts. Flood damage in the Mississippi system increases annually. These multipurpose dams do control minor floods, which encourages encroachment on the floodplains. Then when a major rain event occurs the damage is catastrophic. When reservoirs are full they add to the flood crest and duration. These simple hydrologic truths are not well understood.

    • @Jemalacane0
      @Jemalacane0 3 роки тому

      @@crystalpayton589 Recreation is anything but a mixed bag. Lots of people like swimming, fishing, and boating in the lakes.

  • @sterlingprice5963
    @sterlingprice5963 5 років тому

    Shhhhhhh! Why the 0zarks is just a fictional place. No need for anyone to seek it out.

  • @chipcole4817
    @chipcole4817 5 років тому

    Rock Chalk Jayhawk!

  • @tommaryott4957
    @tommaryott4957 6 років тому

    I love how these "types" of people tell the public how bad this is... I live in Clinton....I've never heard anyone say anything bad about about the opportunities brought by the project. Example... You say the paddlefish breeding grounds are gone.. The paddlefish are thriving... The fishing at the reservoir is second to none...people come from all over the country to fish here... We have a beautiful area ....many great things have developed from this project. You want to always tell people how to look at nature...what to do and how to do it... You never take part in anything that is not tainted in controversy..its what drives you... You look at things through clouded eyes.. Actually...I feel sorry for you.

    • @crystalpayton589
      @crystalpayton589 4 роки тому

      The paddlefish breeding grounds ARE GONE. The paddlefishery is sustained by stocking artificially bred fish. There is no natural reproduction.

    • @crystalpayton589
      @crystalpayton589 4 роки тому

      "You always" and 'You never" comments are unanswerable in person and online. When you begin with those phrases you are not looking for an answer.

  • @xparadox3561
    @xparadox3561 6 років тому

    There is nothing wrong with what they did with " damming the osage." Y don't u look at things that r going on in 2000s and not the 1930s. Y don't u talk about highways being built over neighborhoods and houses getting torn down 4 roads? U r a dumb fuck.

  • @miketaylor8510
    @miketaylor8510 6 років тому

    Hills?? More like small mountains ⛰

  • @miketaylor8510
    @miketaylor8510 6 років тому

    Gods country for sure I miss it there crane Aurora Branson granby stark city

  • @saiaddict
    @saiaddict 6 років тому

    theres be some squatches in dem woods

    • @miketaylor8510
      @miketaylor8510 6 років тому

      saiaddict yes there is had an amazing experience last June 2017 table rock lake

    • @saiaddict
      @saiaddict 6 років тому

      AWESOME!!!

  • @Rodanxxxxx
    @Rodanxxxxx 6 років тому

    Yeah well it was once our culture. Of all Native people ApacheHopiTribes Isrealites

  • @christopherkalamon1684
    @christopherkalamon1684 6 років тому

    Ha I hear ya.